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Another interesting post on Strategic Sorcery, We Are Spirits:
So there are a number of posts floating around about Why Evocation is important. Here is Aaron Leitch. Mike C. The commonality among them is an assertion that magic works through the agency of spirits and that any assertion otherwise is modern and incorrect.
You see, we are spirits too.
Yes, we have bodies, but within those bodies we have spirit and soul. People have power.
This begs the question: What would it take to do what spirits do? What would you have to understand in order to drive the magick yourself, with your own mind, rather than relying on a spirit?
And the follow-up question: If you understood all that — if 100 or 1000 or 1,000,000 people understood that — what else could we create that the spirit hasn’t figured out yet?If you liked this post, consider visiting my current blog at mikesententia.com.
Hhmmm… the age old question. Men can do things in the physical, whilst very few spirits (if any) can do things in the physical.
Some spirits (according to myth) can move things in the physical, and even materialize a body (or almost). Some human mages (according to myth) can communicate with spirits, move things physically with their own spirit, etc.
If a mage and/or spirit could figure out how this system works, as in how to operate it most efficiently and understand it in it’s fullest detail, they’d have a great deal of power.
This is an age-old problem of magick, ancient and modern alike. So far, I have yet to see any mage who can claim he has mastered it, and been able to support that claim with his practice by demonstrating his understanding and skill to others.
Hi John, I wouldn’t worry too much about not finding mages who can physically move objects. That’s just not in line with what magick is good at, as far as I can tell. Instead, I’d look for mages who can influence events and heal people, since mages regularly develop those skills to the point where they’re useful and solve real-world problems.
My advice: Stop waiting for absolute proof, and just start practicing. You’ll find your evidence along the way, and be further along toward developing useful techniques, too.
Well, I did. I found what I was looking for; and I came to the same conclusions of your response. I discovered that it could be done, but I would have to make the solution I wanted, and it wouldn’t come gift-wrapped from another source.
I have the proof I need, and I made my proof through practice. And I developed good techniques too.
Healing and subtle magick were things that I did stumble upon. I did come across really useful things… but the greatest magick I found was to change the external world as a means of opening the minds of others, and then using that to help them begin to change themselves, because using magick to change one’s self was the greatest thing I was able to see any mage do.