Manifesting 2.0?

by Mike Sententia on August 27, 2014

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Does ethereal software get updates?

This morning, the software I use for manifesting gave an error message: “Don’t act on my info today. Something is up today, it won’t work right. It should be better by tomorrow.” The message was hard to read — unclear, quiet, difficult to work with. Odd.

When I got home eight hours later, I asked for more info. It’s reply: “I’m under maintenance by the team that owns me. Improvements. They haven’t given details for your user level. But you’ll have me back online soon.” That reply was equally hard to read.

Seems the spirits I work with are improving their manifesting software, and that it’s seriously down for now. I haven’t seen a major upgrade like this. I’m curious and excited. I’ll post about the changes when they happen.

Has anyone else seen this?

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Sonia August 28, 2014 at 2:10 AM

As you and all there is evolve using Magick your beliefs and your connected network at some point reach a level where they are free to enter the next level, to be able to get more info and or power then you were before able to process consciously.
So this might require some resets or changes in the system. Its known that there are days where communication is whaky, while the cause is not so clear if you don’t wan’t to enter gathered infos about the hole system – meaning earth – making a slight shift in consciousness.
Also it’s not clear if the system for manifesting you use belongs to some bigger part of yourself on a higher level, since everything depends on oneselfs Reality, or if this system is somewhat generally providing access to all of us – this seems a bigger question to me.

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George August 29, 2014 at 4:45 AM

Yes, to what extent is Mike passively creating things, and to what extent are they ‘truly external’.

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George August 28, 2014 at 5:54 AM

Bizarre! Get further details on “user levels” and “the team that owns me”, once back up and running?

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KeeCoyote August 29, 2014 at 7:51 AM

Yes of course. It happens in all things magick and religious. It’s that it is usualy called a new revelation :)

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Mike Sententia August 30, 2014 at 6:54 PM

That’s a really neat idea, that maybe when someone talks about, “the earth shifting consciousness,” or a new religious revelation, they’re referring to the same thing I’m seeing here. Very cool to see potential connections like this. I’m going to check for this kind of change next time I meet someone who says they’re experiencing a shift in planetary consciousness or other similar phrase. Thanks!

Follow-up to this post: https://magickofthought.com/2014/08/healing-and-rest-my-work-august-23-29/

@George: Yeah, I haven’t talked about owners or user levels, have I? The spirits I work with created the manifesting system I use, and a subgroup of them own it. And I’m an “ordinary user” of the software, rather than an “owner” or otherwise higher-level user. So no mystery there. But I’m really happy to see your ears perk up when I introduce new terms — that’s one of the ways I like to explore new concepts, too.

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Sonia August 31, 2014 at 2:38 AM

>That’s a really neat idea, that maybe when someone talks about, “the earth shifting consciousness,” or a new religious revelation, they’re referring to the same thing I’m seeing here.

Well, several distinct channeled sources mention shifts of global consciousness *) and I thought there may be a connection to changes like you experienced.

*) I do not intend to point into any specific direction of consciousness going up or down… because I believe it’s not relevant for the question if there might be a connection. Otherwise also this might be considered to also get checked

But on the question about the owner of the manifesting system , the question stays, who or maybe rather- what level the owner is…. and if we all use the same system or if there are groups we are in like lets say groups of interest or similar energytypes and these may have their own systems with probably distinct power…?

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Mike Sententia September 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Each system of magick has its own ethereal software. Reiki healers channel a different force than I use in my book, and both are different than the forces behind Golden Dawn magick. (If one system grows out of another, like Therapeutic Touch from Reiki or Golden Dawn from Thelema, they may share ethereal software. Or not. No way to say without exploring each particular system.)

All the ethereal software I’ve used has an “owner” level. For example, I’m owner of the software we use in my book. But that doesn’t really say anything about me, it just means that the software grants me the right to use all its commands. Kind of like if your computer login is an admin / root account — it doesn’t necessarily mean you know how to use the computer better than other people, it just means the computer will let you use whatever commands you want. So, owner is different than adept.

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Sonia September 4, 2014 at 2:12 AM

So you are suggesting that there exist different ethereal softwares to manifest…. I did not count in Reiki as a manifesting system but thats also true of course – but…
Even when you don’t address a specific ethereal software like Reiki, people do manifestations all the time without knowing. So that was more likely the question I was aiming to. The question if we all have our preferred manifestation software…. whoever the owner is. But then again I know names as such do not give away who the owner is, but it would be interesting to know in which relation the owner is to the default user, who does use the software unconsciously. I doubt that its like you pass on a street and just go and buy a coffee by chance in one specific cafe or the parking machine you use to get a ticket.
Because in any way this is very personal and I guess its all about attraction of similarities or family (family not in the physical way).
Sorry if I might ask a redundant question that has been explained somewhere on your page but I am not through yet with everything you wrote.
Does the software give answers about that or is this something the owner is able to answer?

Our spirits explained some time ago, that there are different groups of interest that form some sort of spirit families. Groups of Interest parting in Education, Healing, Politics and many many other matters….
That there exist different levels of manifestation layers of all there is. You might say All There Is has parted itself into many spiritual parts – like different family roots but all connected and these parts themselves parted themselves into more fine grained spiritual parts, while every parting leaves some pieces at the higher level to focus on the detail — our consciousness being is like on the fourth or fifth “level” -varying individually .
So each and everyone is part of a bigger soul that is multidimensional and has focusses on different lives and perspectives to experience special views…. and if you put down the filter of your small self, you are this bigger soul and you could see all those different dimensions while its difficult to get all this into imagination because we are on a finer grained level and therefor some aspects just do not fit properly our thinking model.

So I am trying to figure out and correlate if there exist connections to the use of specific software and those groups.
Thats why I am still shaking the tree, trying to get more infos and to figure out correlating patterns to our infos :-)

I apologize for perseveringly nagging on this…

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Mike Sententia September 17, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Hi Sonia, sorry for the slow reply, I’ve been thinking about how to answer.

I think that psychics and mages manifest often, even unconsciously / unintentionally. I don’t think everyone manifests all the time. Sure, everyone thinks about what they want, and those thoughts influence their actions and create results, but that’s not quite what I mean by “manifesting.” Manifesting is when your thoughts somehow go out and influence other people, or random events, or something else of that nature. I know there’s a meme in some circles that we all manifest all the time, that thoughts and manifesting go hand in hand, but having taught myself manifesting and psychic intuitions, in my experience they don’t just happen — they require some technique, and some external forces, and a person without those forces just won’t get anywhere.

Psychics have those forces hooked up to them since childhood. The forces act automatically, so it seems to them like their thoughts just manifest effortlessly. But as a person who didn’t have those forces hooked up properly until my 30s, let me tell you, it’s not effortless unless the force connects to you as a kid.

But yes, among people who use ethereal software, I expect everyone has a few softwares hooked up to them, and you could call those “preferred softwares.” It can take months or years for a software to hook up properly, so this is a pretty lasting thing.

Oh, and I consider Reiki a healing system, rather than a manifesting system. But the term “ethereal software” applies to any force we channel, whether it’s used for manifesting or not.

Thanks for writing, and taking the time to wrestle with these ideas. I know it’s a lot, so please, feel free to keep asking questions. Good luck!

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George September 18, 2014 at 12:49 AM

I’ve been thinking a little about this. Although I agree that there is no “ongoing manifesting” – as in, your thoughts are constantly creating and adjusting reality – is there perhaps some sort of “momentum” taking place, like an “ongoing choice” from previous intentions?

Everyone probably accidentally makes a connection now and again – whether that is to ‘ethereal software’ in this picture, or a ‘gnosis connection’ in others – which launches their experience in the corresponding direction.

This may be the origin of “thoughts create your reality” without further effort: occasionally a thought or intention will get launched, and in an uncontrolled way if you’re not up on what’s happening. (Sometimes this may take the form of not stopping a passing intention of being launched, rather than an act of creation. “Free won’t” rather than “free will”.)

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Yvonne September 18, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Although I agree that there is no “ongoing manifesting” – as in, your thoughts are constantly creating and adjusting reality – is there perhaps some sort of “momentum” taking place

I dunno perhaps I am an outlier here, but I figure since we are technically “on” all the time, and even though there are degrees of being conscious and unconscious, it stands to reason (for me) that we are consciously creating our thoughts and and thus our reality. Being aware (conscious) of the software, the programs, and the apps/applications of thought is just a stage in learning to use them (consciously). Perhaps that is what Mike means by “magick.”
Nice long conversation! thanks!

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George September 18, 2014 at 6:56 PM

Ah, yes. There is “ongoing Will” and that results in subsequent thoughts, actions and changes in the environment – all of which are “manifestations”.

In magickal views which discuss things in terms of coincidences, I always liked to think that the ‘intentions’ caused both the magickal act and the result, so that they were on equal footing in terms of being ‘experiences’.

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Sonia September 22, 2014 at 5:16 AM

Concerning manifestations all the time –
@George and Yvonne
Yea, thats how I meant it.
There is plenty of literature about this complicated theme from several spirits and I don’t want to get into the details.
Someone to look up about this could be e.g. Jane Roberts “Seth”. Just to mention one I appreciate the most, for describing everything without flowerish poetry in several books very sophisticated and with exercises at hand. He wrote one called “The Nature of Personal Reality” very nice.
All her work manuscripts and records have been contributed to the Library of Yale University.

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George September 24, 2014 at 2:22 AM

Thanks!

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George August 31, 2014 at 8:39 AM

If we don’t explicitly use a system – if I just use a straightforward “I hereby decide that this act means that this will happen” a la Chapman etc, will I still be affected by things like this, except I’ll just be mystified as to why things sometimes work and sometimes don’t? There’s downtime and reconfiguration happening, it’s just I don’t know it and strike it up to poor effort on my part?

Before encountering this approach (actively choosing a route), I now realise that my ‘visual idea’ for magick was that I was somehow reaching down a ‘root creation mechanism’ for the universe to effectively respawn the next moment anew, such that the present moment and past events would take into account my intention. I wonder if I was really sending communication to something specific in that case, or whether it was a case of – as you discussed before – I was just getting ‘whatever system I ended up with’, luck of the draw.

Meanwhile, on the consciousness thing – I’m not sure what we mean by saying ‘consciousness is shifting’ or evolving or whatever. Can someone give me a good example to illustrate it?

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Mike Sententia September 3, 2014 at 11:44 AM

If we don’t explicitly use a system – if I just use a straightforward “I hereby decide that this act means that this will happen” a la Chapman etc, will I still be affected by things like this, except I’ll just be mystified as to why things sometimes work and sometimes don’t? There’s downtime and reconfiguration happening, it’s just I don’t know it and strike it up to poor effort on my part?

I wonder if I was really sending communication to something specific in that case, or whether it was a case of – as you discussed before – I was just getting ‘whatever system I ended up with’, luck of the draw.

Yes, that’s my take on things. Well said.

If we don’t consider which forces we’ll channel, we wind up getting, well, whatever we get. And if we eventually wind up using the same force all the time, then it goes down for a day, we’ll get no results and just not know why.

(Another possibility when it goes down: We might get a different software, again randomly picked. Will that other software behave the same way? Will it require time to attune itself to our brain? No way of knowing. That’s part of why I try to make all these steps conscious, so I can be aware of the variables and figure out what’s going right / wrong.)

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Sonia September 1, 2014 at 3:56 AM

I will try to clarify what I mean by consciousness…
you could compare this to an overall theme thats floating around in society where there are times when like “the whole world” was talking about making peace in flower power movement or endulging in new found appreciation of life after war or golden era xyz or times of mounting fear and aggressive struggles society is facing by financial breakdowns and so forth. Just like a butterfly may change the weather in another part of the world we all form some sort of field that does affect us all and the world around us including the weather and earth. While this field is not uniform it does have main streams where the influence of all go. In all periods of time there may be seen e.g. a change of attitude of people that influences a big number of peoples view in the world.

Its so hard for me to describe it in english. I hope I was able to get through what I mean.

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George September 1, 2014 at 7:05 AM

I see what you mean. In a sense it’s, people lining up and sharing a similar vision of how the world should be, and of their fellow man (or woman), a deeper feeling of the “connection” between ourselves and our environment. Progress in that direction.

As opposed to, say, an increasing awareness of one’s own consciousness (the nature of oneself), etc – i.e. not that we’re all sliding towards becoming enlightened Zen Masters! ;-)

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Sonia September 1, 2014 at 10:37 AM

An increasing awareness of one’s own consciousness does just the same influence as any other vision. People sense it and somewhat may get opened by it… but each at its own level… since we all are different levels they will not all become Zen Masters right there and then and not all at the same time anyway hahaha :-)
But every single one will always make a difference to the whole field.

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George September 1, 2014 at 11:50 PM

So it’s a bit like the ‘waves in the ocean’ metaphor – that since we are objects connected from / part of a larger material (consciousness) then our own development contributed to the whole – the idea?

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Sonia September 4, 2014 at 2:15 AM

yea that’s the idea :-)

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Yvonne September 6, 2014 at 6:22 PM

So, this is an interesting discussion about upgrades and stuff…I am convinced that what is going on has something to do with the upgrade of the etheric planetary “grid”…predicted to occur around this time in some sources. This has been described and debated in the new age literature as pertaining to a “shift” in global consciousness. But it certainly does correspond to the earth changes, geomantic, psychic, physical and otherwise. And why not? our very bodies are the product of this planet, and there is correspondence.
hi mike

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